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Supermoon Lunar Eclipse of September 2024: Impact on the USA and National Destiny

• Alexander Mallon • Season 1 • Episode 11

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Can celestial events mirror the destiny of a nation? 
Discover the profound implications of the Supermoon Lunar Eclipse of September 2024 and its impact on the United States Chart as we uncover the significance of the Harvest Moon and Hunter's Moon. We'll also interpret the eclipses of 2024, spotlighting the total solar eclipse in April and the upcoming solar eclipse in October 2024. 

Journey with us as we delve into the astrological significance of the Aries-Libra Nodal Axis for 2024 and its meaning on the US chart. By examining the July 4th, 1776 chart, we reveal how these eclipses align with critical national markers, providing historical context through the positions of Pluto and Saturn during pivotal moments like 9-11. We'll also explore Neptune's role in molding America's cultural identity, particularly in the realms of our social zeitgeist.

The lives of notable figures like Gloria Vanderbilt and Donald Trump offer intriguing insights into the astrological belief that being born during an lunar eclipse can set one on a path of chaos. Reflect on Vanderbilt's legacy and her son Anderson Cooper's poignant experiences with grief, before shifting to Trump's disruptive influence and the recent political chaos. 
We discuss the symbolic implications of the September 2024 Lunar Eclipse and its potential to signify turbulence in home, family, and community. 

Lastly, explore the powerful symbolism of Sedna, an Inuit goddess of betrayal, as we unravel how this Supermoon may signal deep-rooted changes in America's core values and structures. Tune in and join the conversation!

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Alexander & Sheila

Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome again to the Astrology of Family, karma and Relationships podcast. I'm your host, alexander Mallon, with our wonderful co-host Sheila G, the guide on the side. Today we're discussing the supermoon effect, continues the political race to the White House. 2024, the supermoon lunar eclipse of 2024. That's September of this month of 2024. We had a lunar eclipse, a supermoon lunar eclipse that was powerfully on the US chart. We'll talk about that today.

Speaker 2:

So we want to thank all of you that have subscribed to our channel and we invite all more of you to follow our podcast on Apple and Spotify and subscribe to our YouTube channel and help us grow.

Speaker 1:

Indeed, please do subscribe, folks do follow. We need as many people of these early phases of our podcast and YouTube channel being broadcast. We need as many subscriptions as possible so that search engines will find us and others can hopefully enjoy and participate in our program as you are. So thank you very much, much. So, yes, indeed, this month of 2024, september. We just had about a week ago, sheila this very heralded September 17th through 18th it was evening time into the turn of the day A full moon lunar eclipse. A full moon lunar eclipse. It was actually a partial lunar eclipse. We'll discuss what that means in a moment. So it was a partial lunar eclipse and a super moon, a very close, big moon in perigee orbit, perigee close to the Earth, close to the Sun. It was also a harvest moon, harvest full moon, as every September is, and it was the second of four super moons this year 2024.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and harvest, harvest moon, since it's so nice and bright if you didn't finish your harvest during the day, because the sun tends to set a lot sooner as we get in the fall. Yeah, harvest moon, that big, nice, bright moon certainly lights up the ground lights up the night time I can see why they call that the harvest full moon.

Speaker 1:

That's right, you know, we can sort of think about why this is. Why do we have a harvest moon every year? Why is September's moon is called the harvest moon and the October moon is called the hunter's moon? Why are these two full moons somehow significant moons somehow significant? And that's because, of course, during the day, during the middle of summertime above the equator, during the middle of summertime in July and August, the sun is very, very high. The ecliptic, the sun's path and all the planets, including the moon during the day, are very high in the sky. As the sun is, we go to the ocean, get a suntan, but those of you who've been out at night during summertime evenings might vaguely realize that the moon is always very low. The full moon during the summer months is always very low to the horizon.

Speaker 1:

Any astronomer, any amateur astronomer like myself, can tell you that the moon and all the planets during summer months are notably close to the horizon. They hug the horizon. So basically, we've got with a full moon, the sun on one side, the moon on the other. So when the sun rises, the moon sets, or when the sun sets, the moon rises. They're always opposite in the sky. So during summer months the sun is very high and full moons are very low.

Speaker 1:

This harvest moon is that time where we're heading toward the autumnal equinox, the equal days and equal nights, and so that full moon rises much more northwards and therefore also much more northwards and therefore also rises very, very high in the sky versus low to the horizon. So we've got that sun is high still September, but starting to wane, you know, and become more fall and start to hug the horizon and the full moon and planets at night are very high overhead. So those folks who are sky watchers, sheila, um, this fall of 2024 we'll see that saturn and jupiter and the full moons of the of autumn 2024 will all be way high in the sky at nighttime. So it's a great small great saturn, jupiter, uh, viewing time for yes, I can't wait.

Speaker 1:

I love seeing the planets yeah, they're very cool to see. So it should be noted that this year of 2024, we've got, as there are typically every year, four eclipses. The lunar eclipses and solar eclipses always come in a pair of two. So we had our first lunar eclipse in the sign of Libra March 25th of this year. You all might remember, we had a very, very important total solar eclipse of the sun this past, april 8th, 2024, at 19 degrees of Aries. That was the second of a pair of total eclipses that we had in the nation. The first was 2017 and the second 2024. And both those eclipses crossed the nation.

Speaker 1:

The solar eclipse total solar eclipse of I think it was August of 2017, crossed from Oregon down through Charleston, south Carolina area, and the total solar eclipse, recent of April of this year, 24, crossed from Mexico across Mexico and sort of near Mexico City and up into Vermont and Canada, so up into the northeast area of the United States. That's a very notable path from Mexico through Austin, up through central US Ohio Valley area, up into upstate New York and up through New England and southern Canada. There, of course, again. Now we have another pair A lunar eclipse, september 17th, 18th, 25 degrees of Pisces is the lunar eclipse. We just had that this month of September, followed by two weeks later, as nature always has it. Another total eclipse, or perhaps annular eclipse of the sun. Another solar eclipse, so there's a of the sun. Another solar eclipse, so there's a solar eclipse upcoming october 2nd 2024 at 10 degrees of libra. Another important uh astrological placement when we look at the us chart and where is that visible?

Speaker 2:

is it visible in the us? I don't. I'm not sure about that one.

Speaker 1:

I've been following no, this solar eclipse is not visible in the United States continental US, not at all.

Speaker 2:

And why are we so fascinated with eclipses? Is it because they're cycles of change, they're change agents.

Speaker 1:

Well, eclipses are cycles of change. We'll talk a lot about that. Both lunar and solar eclipses. Solar eclipses like we had in April and the one upcoming October solar eclipses are important. They and April and the one upcoming October Solar eclipses are important. They describe sort of the light of day being overshadowed by the moon or covered by the moon, sort of this covering of what's normally visible. This overshadowing quality, this quality of powerfully viewing and reviewing it is notable. We'll talk about that. We've got a slide to show folks that that path of the eclipse, the actual shadow path of a total solar eclipse, is very significant also. We'll talk about that. So we can say 2017, 2024, we have these shadow paths across the US and indeed these have been some power-packed years.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think our last episode, our prior episode to this, we discussed those paths.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's always layers of the onion, more to talk about with every astrological, astronomical phenomenon for us to dig into. So we'll get to more about that today. Yeah, so I have a little quick cheat sheet, folks, that shows that we've had aries, libra, libra, aries, uh, libra and almost aries this september 18th, 17th, just late pisces was this lunar eclipse of this month of september. That this year, 2024, basically, is aries libra, aries libra axis for eclipses.

Speaker 1:

That's where we find all the supercharged stuff happening astrologically mars venus yeah, well, in the us chart of the eclipses, uh, aries and libra fall at the bottom of the US chart, as this lunar eclipse did, and fall at the top of the US chart, the area that talks about career and social world standing. I'm using folks, the July 4th 1776 chart for the US. I'm using the 5.10 pm signing time for the Declaration of Independence. There are people who feel that we were actually a morning, early morning signature, that that happened at roughly 2 in the morning, but there are a lot of us who feel this Sibylle as the person who came up with this. The Sibylle chart is the one that really mirrors affairs for the US.

Speaker 1:

In brief, guys, when we had 9-11, transiting Pluto was right at 12 degrees of Sag. Transiting Saturn was right around 12 degrees of Gemini, posing each other right on this axis of the US chart, this part of everyone's chart. What's rising from what's not seen beneath the observer's feet to the Earth itself, what you're standing on in the sky above your head, what's rising in a person's birth chart, describes their body. So Pluto, plutonium, think of. When I think of plutonium, I think of Hiroshima, nagasaki. That's plutonium stuff. You know, it's energy and plutonium. That was right on the US chart, right on the ascendant, the body of the US. So this 5.10 pm signing chart I think works darned well.

Speaker 1:

And again, that Pluto and Saturn placement of 9.11 lines up unfortunately right on the US chart in a significant way. But we'll address that in a different show. But here's this US chart with Neptune at the career angle of the US chart. Neptune Sheila, which was discovered roughly in the mid-1800s 1846, I think that time period of the 1800s is when they discovered various chemicals and chemical states, including film and film emulsions. That's all chemical, neptunian stuff. So let's see Neptune of chemicals and film emulsions at the career angle of the US. Oh, we're known for film. Like everyone, when they think of the United States they think of Hollywood.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we're definitely known for Hollywood.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and well, we're also known for social media.

Speaker 1:

And we're all known for media changers and we're known for people who are famous in some neptunian way. You know something that's famous for a particular reason that's neptunian. It's a non not easily definable. It's like the, like the god of the oceans. The surface of the things can be so powerful, but the beneath the ocean can be a whole other realm. Yes, so briefly, sheila, just a quick update about this recent lunar eclipse of September 2024.

Speaker 1:

We did not have a total lunar eclipse, only a partial, and that the moon did not go through the umbra, the darkest part of the Earth's shadow. You know again, sun on one side, earth in between and the moon on the other side a full moon event. You know, we always have a full moon where the sun sun on one side, earth in between and the moon on the other side a full moon event. You know, we always have a full moon where the sun's on one side, the earth in the middle and the moon other side. So we had that full moon, as we do every month, but this time the moon just about crossed in that middle of the earth shadow which normally is seen as kind of a reddish hued total eclipse. We only got a little bit of a bite taken out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, moon just have his little cap on A little cap.

Speaker 1:

This is called a penumbral lunar eclipse or a partial lunar eclipse. So we can say, was this lunar eclipse in some way less less deep or astronomically less deep, less dark, less less in the, the darkening umbra of the earth shadow? So mostly out of the earth shadow and a little bit in? Yes, here are actual pictures, folks, of what this recent lunar eclipse looked like. And, sheila, you were saying it looks like a little cat, little cat, little cat. Yeah, here's someone's photo that shows it. You know, zoomed in a little bit so you really get to see the craters and the mare, the lava, the lava, ancient lava plains and some of these big craters like, um, uh, ptolemy, no, sorry, not ptolemy. What am I thinking? Uh, maybe, no, not copernicus. That's copernicus there. Yeah, I know I'm having just a little astrology chart moment. In any case, this Tycho, chico or Tycho.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 1:

Tycho is, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2:

No, that's correct. It's right, it's Tycho crater.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, crater Tycho, named for astronomer Tycho. Tycho, brahe, tycho. This big, bright crater was this impactor, this huge impactor on the moon that you can see. You know, when it hit, it shed all these lines of ejecta, these ejecta patterns. It's one of my favorite things to see with a pair of binoculars. Oh, by the way, I want to make sure that for those folks out there that are flat earthers, you know someday you'll have your eclipse also this would be what it looks like for you. Of course, that's never been seen by humanity.

Speaker 1:

Always, always, we see this instead, you know that nice round objects in the sky always curved and the earth has got clearly a curve to it and the moon's got, you know, curvaceousness to it and we're not going to see a flat line. No, so here's a little graph of a lunar eclipse Earth in the middle, sun on one side, moon on the other. Some say, you know, astrologically, the interpretation of eclipses are that they talk about the past. Some feel these are times where, as humans, we are in a place of transcending old beliefs and old fears, illuminating a light from the inside out, or some ideas people have thought about. Well, it makes sense because there's a lot of light.

Speaker 2:

You still have the light of the sun during the day and you have the light of the moon during the night. So it's, yes, light, just very life-giving and positive.

Speaker 1:

Well, the sun is certainly life the sun is certainly life-giving, that's for sure, except for the depths of the ocean where we have volcanic vents and unusual species that can live on the heat of volcanic vents. You know, every creature needs, needs solar light to to exist. So in astrology's um, the two lights of a birth chart, the two lights of a birth chart, the sun is the conscious ego and the moon symbolizes one's reflected light or one's gut or plexus. Or we can think of a moon cycle. If you're a woman, or if you're an attentive husband, your wife's moon cycle is something that you really can earth every month when we're young. And it's a good idea to think about the sort of the conscious ego self of a sun sign and one's moon sign. By the way, just going back a little bit, you know, for the US chart and one's moon sign.

Speaker 1:

By the way, just going back a little bit for the US chart, we are a season sign, sun sign, cancer. That means the star pattern behind the sun was 13 degrees of Cancer. Or the sun's going through one of those summertime constellations. So we are a summertime nation. July 4th the moon was almost full. Actually, we were born as a nation just after the full moon. So we have the sun on one side, the moon on the full. Actually, we're born we're born as a nation just after the full moon. So we have the sun on one side, the moon and the other, but just past the full moon phase. This is called a gibbous moon or a disseminating moon our sun sign is cancer.

Speaker 1:

Our moon sign as a nation is aquarius. We'll come back to that very important thing to look at for a nation or for a person. So this year, 2024, we have four supermoons. Most years have two super moons, a moon that is at perigee, you know, full moon and perigee full moon, and very close to the earth, so it has this excess or greater size, visual in the sky, and therefore greater brightness For astronomers. It's simply an interesting thing to see For astrologers that who interpret these cycles of nature? Uh, one could say the ancients would certainly, who didn't live by incandescent lights. The ancients would say illumination, as you pointed out, sheila right, greater illumination, greater nighttime illumination, greater emotional expression, perhaps one's moon cycle, you know, powerfully well also.

Speaker 2:

Moon also represents your mood, moon mood that's right feelings what's that? Your feelings? You've got, like you said, the moon.

Speaker 1:

Also represent how you feel about particular things, especially whatever sign it's in well, you were commenting earlier, sheila, before our, our recording, that you know the moon and the tides and the flow and the sort of the, the water and the swelling you know, they say in in astrology elective uh, electional astrology, elective astrology that we generally prefer not to have surgeries during a full moon or new moon, but full moon, particularly due to this swelling of tissues.

Speaker 2:

That's likely, more likely because of the tidal, more tidal pool of water from our earthbound system. That's why we experience a lot of floods. We have had a lot of floods all over our our world indeed, these these months haven't, isn't it true?

Speaker 1:

these months, of these four back-to back super moons we've been through, two of them already have had extraordinary, uh, flooding worldwide the poor folks in czechoslovakia and poland. So europe has had terrible, terrible, terrible flooding.

Speaker 2:

Yes, india, bangladesh, thailand. I think there's some, a lot of some of the asian countries and then parts of the us, uh in august, the, the northeast kingdom of uh, yes that, uh, they had one town that was nearly swept off the map nine inches of rain, I believe in like four hour period.

Speaker 1:

So terrible, terrible flooding. Connecticut had horrific, horrific loss of life and flooding also over these weeks during these two supermoon time periods. So, again, you know, when the moon's on either side either the sunward side, a new moon, or opposite the sun side, a full moon that's when we have those, you know, powerful tidal orientations.

Speaker 1:

And those are those perigeal moons that are orbitally very close to the Earth, that will look bigger and will be a supermoon, will be particularly tidally powerful, and we're seeing that we are having these intense world events of what this supermoon looks like and it's a pretty good graphic. It shows you a bright full moon, but the moon being even a little bit brighter and certainly notably bigger in the visible sky. Here's another graph that I think is really very cool. It really shows you, you know, the micro moon on the right, or a moon that's at apogee, farther in its orbit from the Earth, versus a perigeal, closer super moon, and how much bigger it appears visually. Let's think about this Tidally speaking. It makes a difference. In tidally speaking, this astronomical event definitively makes a huge difference with tides and flooding events and so forth.

Speaker 1:

So what will these eclipses mean for us all? What's going to happen? You'll note, folks, that I have a cute little puppy here. This is a September theme. It's a theme of September 24, the theme of dogs and cats. You know, you guys know what I'm referring to, right. 2024, the theme of dogs and cats. You know, you guys know what I'm referring to, right. So the dog asks what does this mean, with these eclipses? Where are we going? What's next for us dogs and cats? This slide, I think, is very interesting because this person, gloria Vanderbilt, she herself was born during a lunar eclipse, during a lunar eclipse that we just had, this lunar eclipse of Septemberember 2024, um, and she said I was born during an eclipse. I believe very much in astrology. If you're born during an eclipse, it indicates your destiny is chaotic go back to that, isn't she?

Speaker 2:

isn't that the the news anchor on cnn, anderson cooper? Isn't she his mom?

Speaker 1:

that's. That's correct.

Speaker 2:

That's his mom, yeah, and he just, I think he's promoting a book of talking about his mom. His mom's dead now, of course, but he I think he's doing a promotion on his book about grief and how to handle grief.

Speaker 1:

So, um, and of course I believe that out I mean, I don't really know the details of Anderson's life story, but I believe that he said he had a lot of people raise him and nannies and people who assisted in caring for him. His mother was there but not there, oftentimes available and also likewise unavailable due to her power and fame and career focus. And career focus. Well, this person was also born during a lunar eclipse, where father and mother you know, in astrology the sun is symbolizing daddy when we're children and the moon mommy when we're children. So Donald Trump was born during a lunar eclipse, with the sun high in the sky heading toward noon hour and the moon at the bottom of his chart. Really a decided sort of seesaw between his egoic outer world and his emotional inner world, between the world of his career and the inner world of family.

Speaker 2:

He definitely has been a kind of a chaotic agent, agent of chaos.

Speaker 1:

Well, there are a few people, a few US citizens, who'd say that Donald Trump is an agent of chaos. This month of September. The dogs and cats yeah, so you know, that is one recent example of chaos, coming up with ideas that are thus far completely proven to be absurd, that they're not eating cats and dogs. In Springfield, ohio, there aren't general disappearances of animals, but that's more of that fomenting chaos. He is born during a lunar eclipse, in this case the earth, the material earth. Materialism covers or eclipses emotion, feeling is what a lunar eclipse is.

Speaker 1:

So during these weeks of this lunar eclipse, coinciding 2024 with the Trump-Harris debate the first Trump-Harris debate and following the Trump-Harris debate Taylor Swift of course promoted. First Trump Harris debate and following the Trump Harris debate, taylor Swift, of course promoted Kamala Harris. And Donald Trump responded swiftly, no pun intended, that he hates Taylor Swift. A lot of the media ran with that and said what presidential candidate has ever blamed that? They hate anyone, anys, citizen or citizen you know anyone in general, I should say, but particularly us citizens. So you know he's. He's again making a pretty clear statement about, um, one person, uh, one, one woman. You know, let's not forget that the moon symbolizes mommy, mothers and the feminine, the feminine the feminine.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she's a powerful woman yeah, so you know this.

Speaker 1:

This lunar eclipse occurred uh this, this september 17th lunar eclipse occurred only a a week uh after um the debate on september 10th and two days before this lunar eclipse, this, this full moon supermoon eclipse, uh, there was a second gunman, uh found in a golf course and apprehended, who attempted to uh perhaps assassinate I really don't want to see any assassinations, I think yeah, well, you know, we don't have the rise of that again in this chaos, the change, chaotic, changing cycles well, you know, uh, it brings up the topic of, of chaos.

Speaker 1:

you know, is is, uh, is is change chaos, whereas chaos is certain type of change, a certain type of change, a certain type of shift. So here's this supermoon eclipse on the US chart, this full moon, so the sun on one side of the sky, the moon on the other, so a full moon effect at 25 degrees in Virgo.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let me take a minute to take a look at that, alexander, hold on. So the moon here is in Pisces water sign. So what does that indicate for us here?

Speaker 1:

Well, interestingly, the super full moon of this lunar eclipse fell right in between Saturn and Neptune in advanced astrology, when the moon falls in between two difficult planets that correlate with difficult life experiences, they're called malefics. Ancient classical astrology called them negative malefics. So when the moon falls between two malefics, in this case Saturn and Neptune, it may indicate some turbulence or negativity. Turbulence or negativity in a water sign that could involve the mundane world floods, hurricanes, floods, monsoons, uh, etc. Etc. And next to neptune, the god of the seas, yeah, we could say this might be flooding supermoon especially a moon very close, perigee full.

Speaker 1:

It's a supermoon event, it's a lunar eclipse event and again we've had weeks and weeks of floods worldwide, unprecedented, you know, hundred year, thousand year floods worldwide yes, but this falls at the bottom of the us chart, the midnight point of the day, you know, not noon hour overhead, but the midnight point of a chart, the bottom of the chart. And that midnight point talks about what when you lay your head every night.

Speaker 2:

Right when you're trying to feel safe as you sleep your home.

Speaker 1:

Your bedroom, your home, your house, your family, your community, your roots. You know you're not in the outer world but you're at the inner world. So this lunar eclipse at the bottom of the chart is highlighting themes around home and family and community. And right now, in Springfield Ohio, with you know, dogs eating cats and so forth, it it's not happening.

Speaker 2:

It is certainly very very much about communities.

Speaker 1:

It's about citizens, it's about American citizenry, it's about the community. It's about communities together coming together, and certainly there's a lot happening in the media regarding the Haitian community coming together regarding these concerns.

Speaker 2:

And everybody coming together, because even the community of Springfield is saying this is not true.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's very true. There are a lot of people who are discussing this Springfield, ohio concern of dogs, people eating dogs and cats and pets. They're saying you know, marginalized communities, marginalized citizens. Marginalized communities, marginalized citizens, marginalized Americans, have often been the butt of jokes or the center of problems or being seen as outsiders or seen as difficult individuals, crises or chaos bringers. So the theme of chaos around the roots of the chart, the roots of the United States chart. We have the U? S chart and the inner wheel and the super moon cycle on the outer wheel which falls the super moon cycle at the bottom of the U? S chart, the roots of the nation. That involves women, it involves homes, it involves family.

Speaker 1:

And notice two folks, that not the September but the August full moon, that other supermoon fell right on the US moon, within a few degrees of the US moon. So last month's supermoon fell right on the moon of the US chart and the US chart. Let me just bring up the US chart by itself. Where was it? Had a graphic of it. There you go. The moon in a nation's chart describes the people. In a person's chart, sun is daddy, moon is mommy, where daddy and mommy were respectively in their consciousness when we were born. That's what the sun and moon respectively mean in a person's chart, in a nation's chart, the sun describes the leaders, those you know the light of day, you know the public idea of the nation, and the moon describes the populace. Sun describes males and men and Saturn patriarchy, the moon matriarchy. So it's interesting that the moon is women and moon cycles matriarchy. Yes, and these eclipses, these lunar eclipses of August and September of 2024, fell right on the US moon, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we missed that moon where, yeah, I mean this stuff. Well, we could ask what themes came up. Uh, these last few full moons, july's full moon, the middle of the month of july, august, full moon, the middle of the month of august. What? What themes were coming up these last few months? They were around women. Well, in the us it was particularly uh, kamala you know, a woman is running for president.

Speaker 2:

If kamala were to be elected, she'd be the first female president of the united states yes, and plus you also have a lot of women uh, one of rising up with kamala, because they feel like a lot of their rights are being squashed by the government and they don't want that. We should have autonomy over our whole body, and government should not be in the medical field.

Speaker 1:

Government shouldn't be right. Doctors should be doctoring and government should be governing.

Speaker 2:

Correct. So lots of changes here for women.

Speaker 1:

women are responding well, the viewer, um also who's watching us on youtube, can see that this transiting in the sky, this transiting saturn, uh, over the last two years, year and a half, has been crossing near and over this us moon, in fact. In fact, saturn was right on that US moon, within a few degrees when Roe v Wade was overturned. Saturn in a chart symbolizes patriarchy. Moon is women, so patriarchy, saturn on top of women, patriarchy on top of women.

Speaker 1:

I would never have thought that this passage of Saturn over the US moon would have been anything like Roe v Wade being overturned, but that is what you get when you have Saturn and Neptune traveling together on the US Moon. Really, we have Pluto, saturn, neptune three of the big movers near this US Moon and even though astrologers look for things to be exact by transit or cycles, I look at things astronomically. These are phases or phase cycles over time, where there are times where they're exact. Like Saturn was right on the moon, that is right. When, within months, roe v Wade itself was overturned that was the event. It's still an ongoing itself was overturned. That was the event.

Speaker 2:

it's still an ongoing percolating.

Speaker 1:

You know major event collectively and we have one more big supermoon before the election well, here we have a supermoon of october 2024 and this supermoon is right in between chiron, on the United States, chiron. So we're having a Chiron return. Chiron is one of those asteroids was discovered in November of 1976. I used to have this down cold, I don't know where my mind is tonight, but that was right around the time of Comet Kahootek 78, might have been 78, but that was right around the time of Comet Kahootek 78, might have been 78, november of 78.

Speaker 1:

Chiron is a Pluto-like body. They thought it was the 10th planet, another in the solar system planetary herd, but it is one of those Chiron and Eris, the planet that demoted Pluto for astronomers. Eris, the goddess of disruption, chiron the wounded healer, the goddess of disruption. And Chiron, the wounded healer, chiron, the healer, eris, disruption, the moon is right there. I would say that this, yeah, what does that mean? Well, it's again at the bottom of the US chart and I would say we can be very assured that women are going to really rise up here progressively over the next number of weeks into this next full moon of middle of the month, october 2024.

Speaker 2:

So maybe more big rallies like Oprah had with Kamala and a lot of women there and men there too help supporting. But it does seem the women's voices are being spoken.

Speaker 1:

I think the women's voices are going to be heard. I think that this full moon event also opposes the natal saturn of the us chart saturn describes patriarchy in general, so the opposition tells us what this is going to be these next few weeks increasing opposition of the patriarchal domination and increasing focal support around women and the home and the roots and children and family, family, family, family, family, family. The moon itself talks about home, nest and family, and here it's all about the family at large, these big cycles.

Speaker 2:

Financial security for the family. All of that too Well, it has to do with Neptune ideals, ideals around the family.

Speaker 1:

I've spoken in other podcasts. We'll talk more about this again. This transit, this movement of Neptune against the bottom of the US chart, is a repeat cycle of 165 years ago, the last time Neptune Neptune that was discovered. Regarding particularly the rise of Calvinism and the shift with Catholicism and spirituality, it's a major time period of conceptual shift about spirituality and religion. The last time we had this Neptune at the bottom of the US chart was 165 years ago. Neptune's orbit was 165. Yeah, that was the Civil War. We are having a cycle that repeats. Uh, that we had that we during the civil war neptune ideology, home-based I family, home community ideology, opposing the ideology of the united states at its birth okay the contrast or seesaw regarding ideologies, that it's a big, big underpinning theme.

Speaker 1:

right now, the last supermoon event of this year 2024, occurs in the sign of Taurus.

Speaker 2:

It does seem like it's more than four, but you're right, it's just four. I was thinking October, was it?

Speaker 1:

We do have one right around the election. Yeah, this last supermoon event occurs after the election. Conjoined Uranus and Sedna S-E-D-N-A. Uranus and Sedna. Uranus was discovered during the French and American revolutions. It talks about revolution. In Donald Trump's chart he's got sun conjoined Uranus, a tight conjunction. It says he is a revolutionary. It doesn't tell us what type of revolutionary, but it says rule-breaking and evolutionary, revolutionary kind of personality. So here, the full moon conjoined Uranus says this is some kind of material revolution. This is some kind of material revolution.

Speaker 2:

It's squaring to that.

Speaker 1:

Mars placement and that Pluto placement, the Mercury of the US chart is getting hit as well. But, particularly important, that moon Uranus is square the US moon. This says there are themes. Square the US moon. This says there are themes. Square the US moon, not an opposition, that's 180. Half an opposition square, at odds, emotionally at odds with the feminine, the US moon, the populace.

Speaker 1:

This is after the election. 10 days after the election, this supermoon occurs. I mentioned it has the Pluto body. Another Pluto body Sedna, s-e-d-n-a. Sedna is an Inuit or Eskimo, an Inuit god, a goddess of life and death, and Sedna deals particularly with betrayal of men, betrayal of families and betrayal of men and leaders, male leaders particularly so, themes of revolutionary betrayal of men. That's the theme. So I'm a little concerned what that might mean. So, this last of the four super moons, again in a powerful position regarding the US chart, and I think we can see from these supermoon events, where they all are occupying the bottom of the US chart, the roots of the nation, that there's something big percolating and rising up with, indeed, the feminine families, the roots of our culture, roots of our nation. That's where we are.

Speaker 2:

Safety and survival also.

Speaker 1:

Yes, indeed Right Six points ahead of Trump. Some surveys say that there's been a major shift since this debate of early September and this following supermoon, so thank you all for listening and watching. Hopefully you've enjoyed and learned something. By all means, feel free to post comments and thoughts.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I'd love to hear from you and certainly appreciate you listening indeed.

Speaker 1:

Take care, we'll see you on the other side of the next next eclipse at least. Yes, bye.