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The 2025 Super Solar Eclipse Changes Everything - Alexander & Dr. Peter Lanzillotta on this 'Super Eclipse' !

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The cosmos is sending us a powerful message in September 2025, and we're here to help you decode it. The upcoming "Super Solar Eclipse" isn't just another astronomical event—it's a profound turning point for collective consciousness, occurring at the very edge of Virgo (29°) and stepping into 0° Libra just as we cross the autumnal equinox threshold.

What makes this eclipse truly extraordinary is its timing with Neptune completing its 165-year cycle, returning to the same position it occupied during America's Civil War.... and exactly aligned with this Autumnal Solar Eclipse !  This planetary alignment suggests we're experiencing similar ideological divisions, challenging us to transcend polarization and find higher common ground.

 When combined with a rare Minor Grand Trine between Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto, we're witnessing cosmic energies that only converge once every few thousand years.

Through our conversation, we explore how this eclipse mirrors the natural rhythm of seasons—transitioning from summer's outward expression to autumn's inward reflection. As days grow shorter and nights longer, we're called to balance personal desires with collective responsibility. This cosmic event invites us to question our ideologies, examine our inner landscapes, and recognize our interconnectedness.

For practical guidance, we recommend locating where 29° Virgo and 0° Libra fall in your natal chart, as these areas of life will experience profound activation during this eclipse season. Whether you're a seasoned astrologer or simply curious about cosmic patterns, this episode offers valuable insights to navigate this transformative period.

As Thich Nhat Hanh reminds us, technology alone cannot solve our global challenges—we need a collective awakening of consciousness. This eclipse serves as a planetary spiritual director, guiding us to ask essential questions about our soul's journey and our shared future. Join us as we explore how this celestial event can illuminate your path forward during these extraordinary times.

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Alexander & Sheila

Speaker 1:

Welcome to another episode of the Astrology of Family, karma and Relationships podcast. I am your host, alexander Mallon, and again we have a wonderful fellow astrologer, practitioner, theologian, dr Peter Lanzalotta. Thank you, peter, for joining us again. It's wonderful to have you my pleasure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's always great. Peter's always got so much to of course, a multi-decade career of his own in so many disciplines to share with us. So today, folks, our presentation here in September of 2025 is entitled the Super Solar Eclipse of 2025 and planetary turning points. We are in a powerful, powerful time and this solar eclipse this month we actually had a lunar eclipse, peter, earlier this month, on September 7th, and now right around the equinox, september 21st, 2025, we have a total solar eclipse that, astrologically, is powerfully placed. So I'm going to go to my PowerPoint here that I've created for us folks to make sense of things, and some slides and images for those who are on our YouTube channel to help carry us through. So, indeed, the title Super Solar Eclipse that's kind of our tongue in cheek, right, peter? Our tongue in cheek title for the Super Solar Eclipse of 2025. What makes it a Super Solar Eclipse? That's actually my prose, folks, but I think it's a fitting title and Peter agreed this is a turning point, a really big turning point for us all.

Speaker 1:

But let's get to some foundations, peter, I guess, of eclipses and things. Before we go there, I just want to remind people it's still a fairly new podcast, a little over a year now, and algorithms, unless they have a goodly number of subscribers, algorithms make it difficult for people to find my show. So please, if you have interest and passion and enjoy our programming, please do subscribe. That really helps those algorithms list my show so people can find future programming, thank you. So tell us a little bit about yourself before we get into the Eclipse material. Peter, how can people, what can they know about you?

Speaker 2:

you well, I would have to say that, after years of being a soulful searcher and a spiritual adventurer, I've come out, or shall I say, move beyond denominations and churches and I call myself spiritual independent or, as Rabbi Ramey Shapiro called it, being a holy rascal.

Speaker 1:

A holy rascal. Well, our slide here has people. They can know that they can reach you at OneSpiritCoaching. Is that right?

Speaker 2:

Yes, OneSpiritCoachingcom or on my Facebook page, but mainly if they want to sign up for my astrological reports, it would be onespirit-coachingcom.

Speaker 1:

And they can find this material on your website, right, Peter?

Speaker 2:

this material on your website, right, peter? They can find me on that website and I do maintain a Facebook page, but it's not for astrology.

Speaker 1:

Because you're also, of course, you're a doctor of theology, You're a professor, you are a reverend and you also, you know, kind of have a number of different offerings and supports for your clients.

Speaker 2:

You know, even though I'm retired from parish ministry, I continue my work in interfaith spiritual direction or being a soul friend, helping you to find the meaningful answers to your life questions. And, of course, I still do weddings and rites of passage and enjoy designing them with couples and with families.

Speaker 1:

Well, I don't want to let you go here in chatting about and having people understand who you are without saying that, Peter, you've now published three or four or five different books.

Speaker 2:

I have published five, three or four or five different books. I have published five, chiefly a four-volume interfaith daily journal called Seasons of the Soul, where I take quotes from the great world religions and I talk about reflections of my many years of working with people, and then the last page of each day is for you to write your own reflection which could be a part of your personal faith life journey.

Speaker 1:

Wonderful, wonderful work. Thank you for creating it and sharing it with us all. So, okay, back to our program here and other slides we've got prepared. So, again, onespiritcoachingcom, or people can find you just by typing, you know, dr Reverend Peter Lanzalotta. So we are in this eclipse season, peter, where we had a lunar eclipse. We are in this eclipse season, peter, where we had a lunar eclipse earlier this month of September 2025, and now we're rapidly approaching this total solar eclipse, or I should say a partial, technically partial solar eclipse. That means that the Moon doesn't cover the Sun exactly completely to have a total eclipse and casting a full shadow. That we know of eclipses. Nonetheless, every month we have a full moon, of course, every month, right, peter? And every month we have a new moon, where the sun and moon are near each other in the sky, but astronomically it's rare that they are aligned the moon and sun, just right, so that the moon covers the sun, and that's what a total solar eclipse is, just right.

Speaker 2:

So that the moon covers the sun, and that's what a total solar eclipse is. It is important to say right up front that even if you can't see the eclipse here in North America does not mean it will not be influencing our world and the patterns of everything from political to personal life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, very important. So, whether or not a lunar or a solar eclipse is visible in a given region, you know well, particularly these days. I call it, since you and I I think our viewers and listeners know we are both born in analog periods, so to me it, uh, whatever's happening these days, you know digitally. Uh, we're certainly one world. We all know that more than ever and will continue to be for but you can't substitute for wisdom.

Speaker 2:

All these young people who call themselves astrologers are still uh needing to refine their way of understanding and widening their perception and gaining knowledge, which is called aging.

Speaker 1:

Well, and, too, I think it's important for us all to remember astrology charts, our personal chart, our personal chart, which is our roadmap of our soul, our chart, which is a sky map, an astronomical since those of you who know my work know I'm an incredibly avid amateur astronomer. I was out there last night to three in the morning, again two nights in a row looking at Saturn's rings and actually looking at Neptune and Neptune's big moon last night at three in the morning, very cool. So I tell you all these things, astrology really is just a mirror of nature's cycles. So, even when we talk about uh, it is, you know, yeah, as in any field, you can't replace life and life experience and and and the wisdom that comes from years and years of practice. Astrology, though, is also one of those art forms that says, like so many other, like maybe everything, that this is a soul evolutionary process that you know, astrologers. That's why I say, peter, you and I and all of our fellow students of astrology, we're all students of astrology, this astrology game is so huge.

Speaker 2:

We never stop learning.

Speaker 1:

It's also. It's a multi-incarnational enterprise. Astrology. This is not a singular incarnation, only kind of a study.

Speaker 2:

And, frankly, one of the reasons why different astrologers will give different interpretations is because it also pertains to their life experience. Is because it also pertains to their life experience, the level of training or study they've had and their own intuitive faculties.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I like to put it in a different way. Isn't it amazing and shocking that Beethoven, I believe, composed his first piece at age four, or that Pablo Picasso was? And I've seen the work Picasso was painting, like the great Italian masters, at age 12. I mean, since I'm a fellow painter, you know, with my degrees in art therapy, you know I'm shocked at the work that a 12-year-old can produce. Pablo Picasso, stunning. The soul carries this knowledge. The soul carries this wisdom.

Speaker 2:

And that isn't to say that we won't do future episodes on reincarnation or on karmic astrology, but one of the ways that people come to astrology is what about all these old souls, these fantastic geniuses, these ingenues who have the wisdom of the ages?

Speaker 1:

Well said so, the eclipse and eclipses every year, peter, we know in astrology parlance they are super highlights of each year. They're always got two eclipses, folks, in every year, in every calendar year, sometimes more, depending upon astronomy of things. But let's say generally, we have got two eclipses in a year and I believe they move backwards, backwards they do. We have two pairs of eclipses. I meant to say so. We have a solar eclipse and a lunar eclipse, astronomically always paired, always occurring within a two-week frame of each other. Sometimes a lunar eclipse first, like this month of September 25. Sometimes a solar eclipse first.

Speaker 1:

This month of September 2025, we had a lunar eclipse at 15 degrees of the sign of Virgo. Here's the glyph or symbol for Virgo 15 degrees of Virgo. And then, two weeks later now we're having a total solar eclipse on September 21st at 29 degrees. The very last degree of any sign is 29 degrees. Each sign, you have 12 signs that make up a circle of the seasons 12 signs times 30 degrees per sign, 30 days per sign, roughly, you know, 30 times 12, 360, right? That's the circle of the season. So we're having this total solar eclipse the sun and moon coming together in the sky, the moon covering the sun. I think it's in Europe, primarily seen in Europe. This total solar eclipse occurs at the very covering the Sun. I think it's in Europe, primarily seen in Europe. This total solar eclipse occurs at the very, very last degree of the sign of Virgo, almost zero degrees of the sign of Libra, and coincidentally that also means that we're at this turning point of the season. That's an important factor about this eclipse, peter.

Speaker 2:

Yes, now the astrologers I would say East and West give great significance to the 29th degree and or the the energies and qualities of the sign, and then zero of the breakthrough and transformation of energies into a new sign.

Speaker 1:

So we're having a culmination.

Speaker 2:

Right. So we're getting the ultimate energies of Virgo, with the promise of the breakthrough and the start of Libra and or autumnal energy.

Speaker 1:

So you said a mouthful there, just to double check. You know, keeping in mind astrology astronomy, I mean what is astrology, mind astrology astronomy I mean. In other words, what is astrology? It is cycles of nature that are coincidental, coincident with astrological, astronomical, planetary motion. Astronomers, like a backyard astronomer included, we measure and look at the science of these planetary motions. Astrologers interpret what that means in the human experience. In other words, what is the difference between dead winter and midsummer? What's the difference between the beginning of spring and now the beginning of autumn? So, maybe, spiritually, what does the beginning of autumn mean to us? That this solar eclipse is right on the autumnal autumn, equinox, equal days, equal nights period. Right on the autumnal autumn, equinox, equal days equal nights period.

Speaker 2:

What it does is it signals to us the end of the outward growth energy that symbolizes spring and summer, and we get to a learned and then integrating it in the dark months and making it into new soul learning as we start the new year.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and just to double check, you know, because some would consider this program esoterica. You know, when you say new dark months, the calendar right, you mean above the equator. September, october is when the sun has reached its culmination in the summer solstice, and every day after mid-June the sun gets a little bit lower and lower and lower and lower in the sky. It's just like the noon hour sun. As you head into fall and then winter, the noon hour sun gets lower and lower and lower in our visible sky.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry I didn't preface it with in the northern hemisphere.

Speaker 1:

Yeah well, astrology of course has its roots for millions, hundreds of thousands, millions of years, hundreds of thousands of years, certainly likely 30, 20, 30,000 years. At this point We'll see what science continues to show us about ancient cultures. But astrology is as old as fire and stars, watching nature's cycles and how we grow and survive through the natural season, and most of humanity, certainly most of sort of scholarly humanity, was somewhere equatorial and north we could think of ancient Greece and Egypt, etc. But so, yes, this astrology season thing says that we're in the season of the sun getting lower and lower, heading into the darker, longer, darker nights, shorter days, and normally when you have darkness you go into your cabin earlier. If you can picture 100,000, 300,000, a million years ago, yeah, what would a creature do?

Speaker 2:

creature do. Unfortunately, our culture hasn't learned the gift of quiet, solitude and interiority, which is very close to mysticism and meditation and the spiritual journey. So I invite you, with this equinox, that you can begin your steps inward, so that you can then start your perfection of your knowledge and to integrate it into your life.

Speaker 1:

The eclipses, we know astrologically, highlight consciousness, highlight the moment, highlight that period of time. This eclipse is right on, within hours and days of the autumnal equinox, this dimming of the sun, the sun going lower and lower. You know, the season tends to move faster now. Darkness tends to occur very rapidly. Most of us will see in the next month or two like, wow, you know, at this time of day I was out there cycling, biking, taking care of stuff after work. Suddenly it's dark. In the next few weeks it'll be heading toward dark, you know, early afternoon. And that's the phenomenon of being as we have to be, part of nature, and astrology just describes that. So this eclipse at this time is highlighting this inner going, this inner moving toward the winter solstice. And, by the way, peter, you of all people can tell me why the winter solstice? Why is that important in Judeo-Christian cultures, even, I'd say, interculturally? Why is the darkest night important spiritually?

Speaker 2:

Well, you know, the problem, without getting too extensive, is the problem with the Christmas season is that it should be in July.

Speaker 1:

That's a big one. I'm confused, okay, kind of.

Speaker 2:

With all that inward energy of the fall, we come across a highly commercial, extroverted it's become that it's become that which, of course, is a bastardization of the true pagan or indigenous holiday that we would call the solstice, or when the sun reaches its darkest, slowest point and there is less light in the world and less light in the day.

Speaker 1:

Less light in the day, we know in December the sun rises and before you know it it's already afternoon, heading toward dark. You should think where's my day gone?

Speaker 2:

Right, it is Celtic, it is indigenous because they have a way of structuring their world and their society to respect those rhythms.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and it's also. I mean, you know, as a backyard avid backyard astronomer, astrologer, I say it's simply nature. You know that we are mammals, we're not fish, we're not birds, we're mammals and we're diurnal, we're not nocturnal. We're made for diurnal rhythm, the day, the rhythm of the day, and as diurnal mammals, when the sun goes down, we need to. You know, we need to have light. Or we light candles, or we go within. We go then. So the wintertime is a time of going within, because that's when the environment requires us to shelter and go within.

Speaker 2:

So we need to look at the equinox as an invitation to begin our inward journey.

Speaker 1:

Right on Now. This particular eclipse we were saying is particularly important because it's right on that beginning of winter, beginning of its fall, this autumnal equinox, this lessening of the light of the daytime and more that inward going. And so we could say the signs, folks, the signs of Virgo, really the sign of Libra, that turning point of the equinox, the autumnal equinox, that marks those signs Libra, scorpio, sag, capricorn, aquarius, pisces that are wintertime above the equator, they are fall, wintertime signs, times of inward-going energy, doing work inside the home, cleaning the garage, whatever, but really inward-going cleaning the emotional garage.

Speaker 2:

Well, with Virgo, now it's the culmination of the growth cycle, or the outward energy cycle, so that's why it begins harvest season. There's no new planting after this point, except to nourish the soil or to plant crops that winter over.

Speaker 1:

I like to think of it as Bill Clinton is Leo. He's a perfect poster child for being born during the summertime, play and vacation time and all about the self and what we're going to achieve in the outer world. But Mother Teresa is a Virgo, jimmy Carter was a Libra. They're about what we do collectively. What do we do for the collective good? As the sun begins to wane, but a quicker way, peter, I always say Virgo Libra, back to school, back to work. You've been vacationing, cancer Leo and having fun, and now, virgo Libra, back to school, back to work. You've been vacationing, cancer Leo and having fun, and now, virgo Libra, back to school, back to work. It's the cultural, social time of responsibility and your boss, your employer, your teacher wants you prepared for school, prepared equilibrium and equipoise.

Speaker 2:

It's all about light and dark, male and female in and out, and learning how to deal with that duality in its best, most constructive or evolutionary way.

Speaker 1:

In the rhythm of nature, the opposite sign of Libra, where this eclipse is right in the edge of Virgo-Libra. So the opposite of Virgo-Libra is Pisces-Aries and Pisces-Aries transition is the end of March, middle end of March. And the middle end of March is important spring equinox, because we've been in the proverbial inner womb, in the bear cave, in our inner world, in our inner psyche, working on the inner psyche that we celebrate during Christmas time or Hanukkah, the lighting of the candle, the lighting of the spirit. Like the lighting of the candle, the lighting of the spirit, and when you have springtime it's about what will I do when I get out of this cabin? How can I external and achieve in the outer world? The fall is the opposite, when we become aware of not the self but the collective, the other. So this solar eclipse is especially potent because it's following that summertime of I and achieving and fun and play and goal, and now it's a social goal, a collective.

Speaker 2:

So it's sort of like a culmination of the personal and the birth of the communal.

Speaker 1:

Interesting. They say that Virgo is an earth doing sign, libra is an air, mental, social, verbal. There was a season of mental social verbal this end this September, october. The communal Okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay. So as we go forward here, back to our little PowerPoint, to help kind of maybe some images guide us, those of you who are watching on YouTube. This eclipse is a little fun one, intended to be fun. Eclipses here's a little fun one, intended to be fun. Eclipses for centuries, certainly in modern-day India still in certain spiritual rhythms, they say eclipses are times of caution, danger, concern, etc.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean it doesn't have the fatalistic oh my God, the king is going to die approach. That was part of the ancient world.

Speaker 1:

But they came up with these ideas of something challenging, difficult, scary, frightening. Well, a, you know broad daylight, the moon crosses the sun and suddenly you're in darkness, or darkness is happening. All creatures in life I've seen a few solar eclipses now, yeah, the birds stop singing, they start to flock together, they prepare for bedtime, etc. Etc. So there's that nature. It's inward again.

Speaker 2:

And that shock to the rhythm of light and dark is brought is greeted with an anxiety and an apprehension, because there isn't that scientific knowledge and why they will bang on drums and play loud instruments to try to scare the darkness away.

Speaker 1:

Right? Well, the other thing that is coincident with that thousands of years of that, tens of thousands, millions of years of that is that there are coincident changes in the rhythm of nature, the rhythm of that day. But ancients, like in all ways, astrologically, they began to see correlations. You know, coincidence, you know coincidence.

Speaker 2:

Well, these significant events and ancient astrological tables and calendars, the eclipses were one of the first things they wrote down because they were so significant in the day-to-day life or the month-to-month rhythm of a tribe or a kingdom.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, modern-day science 550 years of modern-day science compared to, you know, for humans, about 3 million years In 550 years. Modern-day science is incredible. Of course we're talking on it right now, breathing it, wearing it. They say it was all superstition. They're completely ignoring that there might have been a cultural construct over hundreds and thousands of years watching the rhythms of nature and that that's what astrologers or astronomers did to watch the rhythms of nature. So, while certain people will say go indoors, or that you should shelter or you should go within, maybe we can say metaphorically it's awareness of the inner and the outer, the night and the day, the light and the dark, the inner and the outer spirit of things. You brought a wonderful slide Perhaps you'd share it with us of one of our great modern day guru figures, saint figures Thich Nhat Hanh.

Speaker 2:

Yes, a wonderful teacher to us all, whether we're Christian, buddhist or just openly seeking. This is a quote from his works. Yeah, Scientists okay, ready.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, scientists tell us that we have enough technology to save the planet, but psychologically, yes, we aren't capable. We're not peaceful, enlightened or awake enough to do it. That's why, while scientists are trying to discover ways to improve our technology, we, as members of the human race, have to practice so we can transcend. Transcend our fear, despair, forgetfulness and irresponsibility. A collective change of consciousness will bring about a new way of life, a mindful way of living. The technology that is available to us will be enough to help us to save this planet.

Speaker 1:

I see why you brought this wonderful writing of Thich Nhat Hanh to us today when we discuss eclipses, because the whole theme of eclipse, of course again, is awakening awareness. Eclipse, of course again, is awakening awareness. The sun, every morning, brings illumination and light, and the moon like I always think the harvest moon, the full moon, brings awakening and light. So the two lights, astrologically, astronomically, the sun and the moon bring illumination for humans. And so I believe your Thich Nhat Hanh quote is identifying this issue of enlightenment and being awake enough.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and not that science isn't marvelous, yet has it added to our quality of life? Science is not the leading edge of change. Only consciousness will bring us to this place where we can not only accept and affirm change, but we can benefit all of human race. That means overcoming our desires, our selfishness, and work together to change irresponsibility into compassion.

Speaker 1:

So this solar eclipse of the fall of 2025 is a particularly. I called it a super eclipse because not only is it on the equinox, when we're thinking about letting go of our desires and wishes of the summertime and thinking back to the collective in our career, our teaching, our being a student, our sharing our knowledge, our lifting each other up that's part of what every autumn brings, that awareness of the collective concerns and needs. But also, too, this eclipse time is to highlight and it's metaphorically during this season highlighting awareness, illumination, the intent to be aware, the intent to be illuminated, the intent to observe what's happening culturally and environmentally. Environmentally. There are a couple of things I want to get to that you brought this wonderful slide, but I do want to say there are some really big cycles happening coincident with this total solar eclipse in September of 25. All the planets, including Jupiter, later on this year, all the planets are going to be going retrograde in motion. We have this Virgo total solar eclipse. We have a grand trine between Pluto, uranus and Neptune that we'll talk about very briefly here, and other shows at more length. We have what's called a lunar reversal.

Speaker 1:

I think one astrologer, molly McCord, has coined the frame, as far as I can tell, quote in the phrase lunar reversal, I think she means other things. When I read that, I thought she was discussing the major lunar standstill which has to do with the moon every 18 years being very, very high in the sky at night and very, very low in the sky at night. And the ancients who did these geofors like Stonehenge and so forth. They have for tens of thousands of years 10,000 years certainly literally seen the coincidence of this rise and fall of man's moon, one of man's emotional consciousness. So we have these really big cycles happening alongside this total solar eclipse of this year, 2025. So Peter lead us through this slide in brief. For those who don't know astrology, it talks about the seasons and the sun signs of the astrology chart.

Speaker 2:

This all sort of fits in with what Alex was saying about the cycles of nature, and it gives you a snapshot of where all the signs are, what are the ruling planets, and also helping you to see that we are dealing with cycles, and they're cycles of not only nature, not only involvement with our personal life, but cycles in which we can begin to map and watch our own journey of the sun, the seasons, I think we most typically note winter solstice, like Christmas, hanukkah, new Year's in bulk, you know, pagan holidays that are about that season and the dark of the night You're saying that these seasons are about awareness.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and even if you are on the Christian side of things, you can really benefit from the eightfold wheel of the pagan Celtic Wiccan year, so that you can track how there are cross paths and places where the sun is more emphasized than others. And so, with the equinox, we have it being an understanding of the balance of energies in our world light and dark, male and female, conscious and unconscious, above and below all about how each of these stages and steps contribute to our sense of wholeness and the entirety of the mystery we call life.

Speaker 1:

And this journey of the sun, the journey of the moon, the journey of the experience of these seasons is really what the standing stone alignments all over the globe not just Stonehenge all over the globe, many, many standing stones, alignments were astronomical calendars to measure these seasons that describe whoops, pardon me, just what you shared. Where was my slide? This one that describe the journey of the season and our awareness of other and self throughout the year throughout the year.

Speaker 2:

Yes, the Jungian analyst Thomas Moore talked about the planets within, or the with astrology, because Jung himself was an astrologer.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we'll have to cover that more thoroughly in another show. Carl Jung and I think a great portion of his foundational constructs were well, they were born from astrology, Astrology itself, the Celtic calendar, the sun, moon, the natural cycles of life. That's astrology.

Speaker 2:

Now, Alex, is there anything else you feel that we should cover in this session?

Speaker 1:

Well, I want to highlight that this eclipse cycle that falls in Libra-Virgo and they're very tail end of Virgo and Libra, this solar eclipse that we're having mid-month here, september, it's highlighting that theme of the outer and the inner. You know this confluence of the outer world and the inner world. You know the personal goals, the personal desire and the cultural, the societal, social giving that needs to happen. So I'm wondering, peter and we'll come to some of these other slides another time about the Rahu Ketu, the nodes of the moon but this issue of these trans-Saturnians, neptune, saturn, pluto, uranus, rather in a rather rare, no, rather rare, a multi-thousand year rare alignment right on this eclipse. Neptune, right on this eclipse, neptune symbolizes and is discovered during a period that's highlighting philosophy and psycho-spiritual concepts. Neptune symbolizes one's social, emotional, psychic understanding, the frame of reference for being in the world. This is highlighted in this eclipse also. Is it not world? This is highlighted in this eclipse also, is it not? We could also.

Speaker 2:

They're all in a harmonious aspect to one another which allows them to be free-flowing, support to one another's qualities and potentials.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, one key thing about this Neptune placement that's right exactly on this month's solar eclipse is that Neptune, astrologically, from experience and when it was discovered in the mid-1800s, neptune is about ideology, ideologies, and I've been telling my clients often that Neptune the planet of ideologies, in one form of the US chart the 5.10 pm signing of the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, rather so when the Declaration of Independence was signed, july 4 of 1776, some astrologers say 5.10 pm, some say 2.13 am, some say 2.13 am. But very key either way is that this Neptune placement is very significant right now in the sky with this solar eclipse and on this particular US chart with the Sibley chart this afternoon signing of the Declaration of Independence. That Neptune cycle is in this eclipse cycle. It's right there at the bottom and top of this chart, highlighting the outer world and the inner world. Neptune is exactly where it was, folks, 165 years ago. Its orbit is 165 around the sun. This is exactly the same period when we were in the throes and throngs of our civil war in the US.

Speaker 1:

So think about that. Neptune symbolizes, highlights ideology, and that's a big part of this chart right now, not only in the birth chart of the US Neptune's placement, but where Neptune is in the sky opposite. We have Neptune in the sky opposite its placement when we were born as a nation. So we have opposing ideologies that are collectively significant. So again, this is happening and highlighted by this month's total solar eclipse. I think that's significant. I don, that's significant. I don't know if you have a comment, peter, on this.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'll talk about the other one, the Adams chart. Go ahead, okay. And when Neptune is in this chart? In this chart is very much connected to the effect on children, on creativity and on how one expresses one's feelings or ideals in the world. So that's why that would be significant in contributing to all the ways people are using media and expressing opinions. Because, remember, neptune is double-sided it gives ideals but it also gives illusions, delusions and addictions. So we have to look at the stridency of unclear opinions and ideas.

Speaker 1:

So, astrologically we could say, this total solar eclipse of September 2025 is highlighting the Neptune themes in the US chart, themes that deal with the inner world, family, children. Themes that deal with the outer world cultural, social, and no matter which chart time, that is, which time of the signing of the Declaration, no matter which chart astrologers use folks, this eclipse cycle still is highlighting the outer world, in contrast to the inner world, the family hub, the identity of state, nation, county, community versus the outer world manifestation. We're having an opposing eclipse highlight of these themes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, again, interpretations might vary a bit, but you can depend on where they agree.

Speaker 1:

And we can also say what astrologers typically do with self and clients is to see where these major cycles are placed in individuals' personal charts, not only the chart of a nation or a state, but also where is it, this Neptune cycle, this full moon, this solar eclipse?

Speaker 2:

rather as a point of recap. If you have your natal chart, please look at where 29 of virgo and zero of libra happen to be and then, across the chart, at the exact opposite place, look for zero or varies, and you will see that polarity as being the most powerful in your life.

Speaker 1:

This month of September and these months immediately around, because all these coinciding major cycles we'll talk more about on another show, these coinciding major cycles we'll talk more about on another show, and also that we're at this powerful, powerful turning point in human history. I think that Saturn pardon me that Neptune-Pluto-Uranus cycle we talked about, that's a multi-thousand year type of cycle. What's coincident with that really rare cycle, collectively AI In modern culture, ai that is, in a way, the present day poster child for this collective massive change, massive shift of ideology, neptune and consciousness. So I would have my clients think about what are my ideologies? Why do I have any particular ideology, even from a spiritual place, I wonder. Lastly, as we wrap up soon as a theologian, as a professor of theology, as a Reverend Peter, I wonder, doesn't the solar eclipse also highlight why do I have an ideology? Who is the seer, who is the perceiver? Who is the I, who am I versus who you are?

Speaker 2:

One of the things that eclipses do is it ushers in the opportunity for us to take time to ask essential questions of ourselves or the direction of our souls. Our busy world often keeps us from being internally aware or cognizant of the inner life and how that needs to be nurtured. These eclipses offer us an opportunity to step back, to feel, to respond, to listen to what it is that our soul is asking of us or the people. I ask one essential question how can I help you to find the highest and best answer for yourself? Because that's the goal of spiritual guidance. Not to put you in a pew or listening to a book. It's to figure out how best you can listen to the inner person and the guidance that will be revealed to you. And the eclipse, in some ways, is a planetary spiritual director for us all.

Speaker 1:

So, on that note, that's beautifully said, peter Thank you for bringing us to mindfulness. Thank you for bringing us to mindfulness, but I think also too, lastly, astrology, particularly Western astrology versus Vedic or other systems. The foundation of it for those of us who study in the West is how can I take my chart personally and understand myself in frame of reference to the greater, and how do I understand the greater around me in a way that I can make sense of personally? So there again is the astrology is describing for most of us as students. That's why I think we all fall in love with it. It's this wonderful road, this roadmap of the star, roadmap of nature, roadmap of cycles, that we're part of, that describes our own inner wiring, let's say our family, our mothers, our fathers. All that's in part of the chart, but ultimately, you know again the phenomenon of growth, soul growth, awareness of self.

Speaker 2:

That's why it's such a great gift to yourself to learn astrology and to study with other people so that your knowledge can expand.

Speaker 1:

And that's why, when we get in, when those of us who are students, fellow students, get together in groups or collectives or societies or other clubs, whatever yeah, learning groups. We learn about ourselves from learning about others and we learn about others by learning about ourselves. It's a joining connection, it's an awareness of connection.

Speaker 2:

And in that way it's a blueprint to ourselves and a blueprint to the society we live in, and a blueprint to the ultimate realities that connect and combine us all.

Speaker 1:

It sounds lofty when we're speaking, but isn't that that is? You know, it's living day by day, month by month, year by year, and these astrological cycles simply highlight their kind of road signs on our journey. Well, peter, thank you so much. Road signs on our journey. Well, peter, thank you so much.

Speaker 2:

It's always really edifying and soul-nurturing to have you teach us and share with us. Well, I get it. It's a privilege to talk to your subscribers and I hope that they'll take advantage of both of our paths of knowledge and wisdom and any way that we can help them. Of course, we want to be available.

Speaker 1:

Well, thanks for sharing that. So that is, of course. Peter and I both do see clients teach and so forth, lecture speak. We will have in the program notes again Peter's email and website for you to reach out to him and work with him. Peter does, of course, as a minister, as a reverend and as a theologian he does offer counseling and coaching work, spiritual and otherwise. So thank you, peter, we'll see you again really soon. We just kind of again opened up so many different topics to dive deeply into.

Speaker 2:

We will never lack for topics that's right.

Speaker 1:

Thank you everybody for listening and watching. When we'll see you again, blessings, thank you.